Pagerank (Matters or Not) and Perspective

Posted on 04. Jan, 2010 by Isaac Yassar in Uncategorized

discussionDoes pagerank matter?

That’s a hot question now buddy. Discussion about whether Pagerank matters or not is currently a hot one. Some say PR matters, some say PR doesn’t matter, some say funny things ;-)

So as usual, I want to add my humble voice to the existing discussion to enrich it.

In my opinion, matters or not it depends on the perspective used to measure it. I believe there are many perspectives to use, such as:

  • Traffic-building perspective (e.g. does more PR gives more traffic?)
  • Make-money perspective (e.g. does more PR means more money?)
  • Personal-based perspective (e.g. does PR matters for my grandpa?)
  • Etc

In traffic-building and make-money perspectives, I don’t state anything because I am not an expert there.  So I leave it to the experts who already discussed it on their blogs.

What I can share with you is the about the personal-based perspective. From my 24 years of lifetime, I’ve gained a tiny piece of wisdom that spoke to me inside my head:

Everyone has a right to decide for himself / herself whether PR matters or not (for him / her) based on his / her personal interest. You will respect it if you’re wise.

Therefore, if my old grandpa (just example) thinks PR matters because it brings him good Feng Shui to his rice field, then so be it. I should not debate him about his personal preference no matter how irrational it is for me. If he is happy with his thought, then I should be happy for him. As long as it doesn’t bother me, I should be cool.

For me myself, PR only matters as far as 1 reason only: I like it. I am happy to get a good number, it feels good. Well, that’s my personal preference.

However, I’m not obsessed with increasing my PR. In fact, I did nothing to increase it. Things that may have directly given me PR juices are actually my efforts to gain traffic in the first place. I guess I’m just lucky with my PR :lol:

Well, that’s a personal-based perspective. My friend, you are as free as a bird in this one.

Tags: pagerank, SEO

52 Responses to “Pagerank (Matters or Not) and Perspective”

  1. Blogging Tips

    04. Jan, 2010

    Yes you are lucky with your PR.I am also not obsessed with increasing my PR, just I develop and promote my blog.Naturally PR increases

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  2. sakthikumaran

    04. Jan, 2010

    My point is Page Rank is very important. why because it will give more traffic for our site. so page rank is very very important .

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    • Leif Andersen

      04. Jan, 2010

      If I remember correctly, page rank is only one of the few things that search engines such as Google use when indexing posts. More important is other forms of SEO, such as not having a flash based website.

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    • David

      05. Jan, 2010

      Can you give me any advice about how to increase the PAge Rank of a site? I have tried to follow what other people suggest but with no success.

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    • Isaac Yassar

      05. Jan, 2010

      Hi sakthikumaran. Leif is right. Google says “Pagerank is just one of over 200 signals that can affect how your site is crawled, indexed and ranked.”

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  3. Jim Hardin

    04. Jan, 2010

    I think it is good to have a good page rank, but I am not really doing anything special to increase it. I just generate posts and get them out there.

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  4. Keith

    05. Jan, 2010

    Issac, I agree with you, this seems to be a hot topic this week thanks to Google updates.

    I understand your point, and I “like” PR too, my article I thin was misunderstood by a few, and my point was misconstrued.

    PR does NOT guarantee traffic, nothing does. It is not important enough to obsess over….

    Thanks for the great debate over on my site…

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  5. Rose

    05. Jan, 2010

    Seeing how you asked us if Pagerank matters I’ll tell you again no.

    Pagerank doesn’t give more traffic. PR is based on the number of links Google has found pointing to a certain web page. If I were to link to your blog, Google would count that as a vote of support. Google assigns a numeric weighting from 0-10 for each webpage on the net. 0 means no or few incoming links and 10 means the highest number of incoming links. Understand? So congrats on your link popularity, because that’s just what that number 5 means. :)

    Now I’m going to state something. This is not an opinion. It’s a fact quoted right from Google.

    “Don’t worry. In fact, don’t bother thinking about it.”

    “Pagerank is just one of over 200 signals that can affect how your site is crawled, indexed and ranked.”

    With that said, if you’re happy with your PR then great, but my opinion would be that YOU shouldn’t be telling others how to INCREASE their PR, because as you’ve already said you’re not an expert & you don’t know how it all works.

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    • Isaac Yassar

      05. Jan, 2010

      Alright! Here we go again ;-)

      First, thanks for your opinion Rose. I appreciate it.

      Well, I DO state I am not an expert in traffic-building and make-money-online, but I DON’T state I don’t know anything about PR.

      My PR-increasing guide isn’t a comprehensive one, but a custom one. Only experts can make comprehensive ones. But only me can make my custom one ;-)

      May be you want to underestimate my knowledge in increasing PR here. But hellooo? I got a 5 here, remember? That’s my achievement to prove my knowledge in increasing PR.

      Do you actually think that I don’t realize if my traffic methods also give me nice PR juices from the very beginning? You think someone can reach a 5 with only pure luck? If yes then use yours to get one ;-)

      You CAN underestimate my skill in increasing PR if you have higher PR than 5 aka mine. Because knowledge without solid proof of achievement is bullsh*t.

      It’s like what Captain Jack Sparrow said “It’s about what a man CAN do, and what a man CAN’T do”.

      Regardless of matter or not, CAN you? ;-)

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    • Isaac Yassar

      05. Jan, 2010

      Oh and Rose, I’m sorry I have to delete a part of your comment that was for sakthikumaran.

      You see, Leif had given a good advice there in a friendly manner. I don’t think your harsh one is needed. Sakthikumaran is my guest here, I made a promise to myself to protect his good mood.

      Rose, I do believe that you are a knowledgeable person, but arrogance or harsh tone doesn’t really show it. People are naturally defensive to arrogance and harsh tone. People naturally refuse to be corrected by those two.

      Be friendly, wise, kind, and people will see your true expertise and let you you correct them in a good way if they are wrong :-)

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  6. The strategist

    05. Jan, 2010

    Page rank is not that important when it comes to generating traffic. It sure can help you rank high for certain keywords, but it’s possible to have 0 page rank and yet get huge traffic that convert well.

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    • Isaac Yassar

      05. Jan, 2010

      Perhaps. But isn’t it PR 0 means PR-penalty from Google? I never see PR0 gets any increase. One of my old blogspots is PR0.

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  7. BestofBlogger

    05. Jan, 2010

    Just a greenbar. People love to see their bar more green :)

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  8. Nick

    05. Jan, 2010

    Hi Isaac. I’m also wondering when will be next caffeine update. According to rumor, It seems that contents will going to be most important than PR. What do you think?

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  9. Tom - StandOutBlogger

    05. Jan, 2010

    I would much prefer more traffic over a higher PR. PR is good for link sales but that is about it.

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    • Isaac Yassar

      05. Jan, 2010

      Me too Tom. Bigger traffic is much useful than bigger PR. Big traffic is a major sign of the success of a website.

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  10. Tech-Freak Stuff

    05. Jan, 2010

    It is just among the 200 criterion for SEO , but if you have a greater number, it always feels good!

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  11. Ching Ya

    05. Jan, 2010

    Pagerank is one of the many measurements for site popularity. Of course it’s great to have higher PR, but of course, depending on the blogger’s goal for his/her site. If for advertising purposes, higher pagerank, higher pricing for ad placement. For me, I hope for a better PR; if I don’t get it, it’s fine too. The blogging continues and most importantly, quality content and readers’ participation are what I’m aftering. :-)

    Keep up the good work.

    @wchingya
    Social/Blogging Tracker

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    • Isaac Yassar

      06. Jan, 2010

      Hi Ching Ya, thanks. Yes, quality content is the core of a blog that runs well, plus lively discussion on the comments section. I am also looking for those two.

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  12. abhi

    05. Jan, 2010

    For me, it matters. Your subpages also gets rank. So you will get higher search engine ranking

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  13. Sushant @ techooze

    05. Jan, 2010

    Just keep building quality backlinks and page rank will follow you

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  14. element321

    05. Jan, 2010

    Isaac,

    Great post. I have the same feelings about Google PR. Of course right now my site is to new to be ranked. But I do want to see it rise. Its only important to me, as a good pat on the back and that my SEO and other steps to raise search traffic to the site is working.

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    • Isaac Yassar

      06. Jan, 2010

      Have you checked your blog’s PR buddy? I’ve heard that some 1-2 months old sites have got their pagerank too.

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      • Element321

        06. Jan, 2010

        yeah its zero. I started messing with SEO and commenting and regular posting about halfway through Dec. Also EvolutionaryDesigns.net is a dead page. I think that is messing with the rankings. I left it open for my biz page but its still being designed. I think I will throw something quick and simple one page bio page or something. Hopefully that will help.

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  15. Rose

    06. Jan, 2010

    I’m truly sorry if you felt I was being arrogant. I really wasn’t trying to be. I don’t doubt for a second that posting on Wordpress didn’t help increase your PR, but it was not the only factor. It was just one of many.

    I actively participate in many forums- likely more than you do, but still my PR has NOT increased on my blog.

    It’s true that Backlinks do play a very big role in Google’s pagerank algorithm. I use to be one that told bloggers how to backlink there way to a higher PR, but then I learned that submitting to article directories, and posting on forums and writing articles didn’t have any factor on my PR.

    This isn’t something I learned over night. It took sweat & hard work.

    What has the most success? Your content!

    If you get more people linking to your blog posts Google
    understands that your blog is highly informative and counts each incoming link as a vote.

    Your PR may have increased because of your content. I don’t know if you have a lot of people linking to you, but if you do that would be why you saw an increase.

    Just because someone has a PR of 5 it doesn’t make them an expert or even knowledge enough to give advice and I’m not saying this to be harsh or even critical of you.

    As for my comment to “Leif” I didn’t make one. I addressed “sakthikumaran.” What he said wasn’t correct.

    Also incorrect is “It sure can help you rank high for certain keywords.” Pagerank has no factor on Keyword ranking.

    Oh and a PR 0 does not necessary mean a Penalty. It means that that site has not developed a PR yet.

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  16. Rose

    06. Jan, 2010

    Well I learned something new in all of this. lol Sometimes debate can be good because it teaches us new things.

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  17. EarningStep

    06. Jan, 2010

    well. off course page rank is important , but…. just for regular reader . i don’t think a page rank can show the real quality of a blog.

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  18. Inside the Webb

    06. Jan, 2010

    This is awesome! I really like how you explain PageRank, it’s really relative to Google and a very unstable number. Granted it still holds a lot of truths, but PageRank isn’t everything

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  19. Tinh@eblogtip.com

    06. Jan, 2010

    This is my personal ideas but to conclude, PR matters to me and many others. Otherwise, it is not important with Google then:

    # Traffic-building perspective (e.g. does more PR gives more traffic?) Yes, as PR is among 200+ factor to determine your ranking in SERPs
    # Make-money perspective (e.g. does more PR means more money?) Yes, noone asked you to write paid reviews if your blog has no PR or be punished :-)
    # Personal-based perspective (e.g. does PR matters for my grandpa?) Yes, to show that my SEO skill is good :lol:

    Thanks

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  20. Dana @ Blogging Update

    06. Jan, 2010

    At least, my earning increase each time My blog PR increase. :D

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    • Isaac Yassar

      06. Jan, 2010

      That’s a good news my friend! Good to hear it ;-)

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    • David Lindsay

      12. Jan, 2010

      That was one of the most interesting comments in this debate. Can you say which comes first? Is it the increased earnings (presumably because of increased traffic) or is it the higher Page Rank brought about by more links?

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  21. Ms. Freeman

    09. Jan, 2010

    I’m not obsessed with my PR, but I sure do like to keep the green line moving to the right. ;)

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  22. James

    10. Jan, 2010

    To me it’s just another indicator… something that describes how effective your other efforts have been.

    I’ve gone from zero to two, so I guess I’m headed in the right direction.

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  23. Thomas

    16. Feb, 2010

    Isaac,

    First of all I love your website layout! Very clean and orderly. I think you should get extra PR just because of that. ;)

    Anyways, I agree that content is plenty more important than PR. In the long run, quality content should give way to good PR.

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  24. Borys

    03. May, 2010

    Isaac, this is exactly what I was searching for. How to increase PR and traffic to my websites and blogs. As you and many other readers said, quality content is still an important aspect of the website.

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